Most Christians go to Christian bookstores to buy things. Jenn and I go to find new stuff to make fun of. We are rarely disappointed. And tonight was no exception. Check out some of the highlights…

“In the same way, the critic of Jesus junk stores is assumed to be a critic of Jesus.  But of course, scriptural satire assumes that the foremost critic of Jesus junk stores would be Jesus Himsself.  If Christ were to go to the Christian Booksellers convention (CBA) and see all the crap being hawked with His name on it, He could spend all day there turning over the tables.  The reason we have a problem with this, and not with the account of Christ cleansing the temple two thousand years ago, is that in this scenario, Christ is messing with our tables, our profits, our religios scams.  Everybody is against two thousand year old sins.  But it takes a prophet to be against the currently approved abominations.” Douglas Wilson.

I’ve been having a discussion with my friend Mark Traphagen on twitter (if you can call 140 characters at a time, discussion ;P ) about Egalitarianism and Complimentariansm i.e. the roles of men and women in the Church/Body of Christ. We’ve decided to take it to blogs in order to have more room to form arguments..etc. I hope the following is beneficial.

Just for background …

Mark: Redemption involves restoration of the imago dei, shared by both male & female before the fall.

Me: I totally agree. And even before the fall Men and women had jobs and roles that we distinct and different

Mark: Just curious: where do you get that they had different “jobs and roles” pre-fall?

What follows is my response.

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Three issues stick out to me in the first few chapters of Genesis as they pertain to gender roles. While there may be more I shall only focus on these three.

First, is the issue of creation order. Many egalitarians laugh at the idea that man being created first has any real bearing on this issue but the Apostle Paul, himself, provides the weight to this argument. Paul Says in I Timothy chapter 2 that “I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.  For Adam was formed first, then Eve…” (12-13) The Apostle Paul uses the creation order to argue that women should not “exercise authority over a man.” As J. Ligon Duncan has said,

“We may not like Paul’s view of the meaning and significance of the creation order of male then female in Genesis 1-2, or his application of it. We may not accept that view and application, but that it is indeed Paul’s view and application of Genesis 1-2 is incontrovertible. And because Christians understand that the New Testament is in many ways God’s divinely inspired hermeneutical manual for the Old Testament, when a New Testament passage tells you what an Old Testament passage means, for an orthodox Christian that interpretation becomes a matter of dogma.”

Second, we see that Adam is given a job before Eve is ever created. It is only after this that Eve is created and given the task of being an assistant or “helper” to Adam (Heb., ‘ezer kenegdo, literally “helper like unto himself “). Adam was not made to be a helper for Eve but  Eve was made to be a helper for Adam. Though some argue that gender roles are a result of the fall, Paul bases his argument in 1 Timothy 2 for male-headship on the situation in Eden before the fall which we see in Genesis. While it is true that the fall did corrupt gender roles, as it corrupts everything it has to be important that Paul uses this pre-fall argument. The woman was created from the man and for the man to be a helper to him in his responsibility (Gen 2:18); The man was clearly identified as the head or leader and his headship was defined as well

Thirdly, and finally we have the issue of the specific job of Adam. He was given the job, though not his only job, of naming all the animals that he has been given dominion over.In Genesis 1:26, God  gives Adam rule, dominion and authority over all animals. Withing the next chapter, in the parallel account in Gen 2:19-20, we see Adam being given the charge naming the animals. God makes them and then Adam names them, thus displaying a form of God given authority over them. But the question arises, who named Eve?

Then the man said,

“This at last is bone of my bones
and flesh of my flesh;
she shall be called Woman,
because she was taken out of Man.” (2:23)

There it is. The very sign of Adam’s authority was naming. Therefore, it would seem, that one must conclude that Adam naming eve “Woman” was a sign of dominion and authority.

Women are equal to men this is evident in the greek word for helper being translated “”helper like unto himself “. Adam had a helper that was, like himself, created in God’s image. However, she was different from him in creation order and role.

Let me add a final post script, if I may.

Mark had mentioned Galatians 3:28 and the equality of men and women. In response i will quote John Piper and Wayne Grudem:

The context of Galatians 3:28 makes abundantly clear the sense in which men and women are equal in Christ: they are equally justified by faith (v. 24), equally free from the bondage of legalism (v. 25), equally children of God (v. 26), equally clothed with Christ (v. 27), equally possessed by Christ (v. 29), and equally heirs of the promises to Abraham (v. 29).

This last blessing is especially significant, namely, the equality of being a fellow-heir with men of the promises. In 1 Peter 3:1-7, the blessing of being joint heirs “of the gracious gift of life” is connected with the exhortation for women to submit to their husbands (v. 1) and for their husbands to treat their wives “with respect as the weaker partner.” In other words, Peter saw no conflict between the neither-male-nor-female principle regarding our inheritance and the headship-submission principle regarding our roles. Galatians 3:28 does not abolish gender-based roles established by God and redeemed by Christ.

“In C.S.Lewis’ Narnia Chronicles, Aslan, the fierce but loving lion,represents Christ the ‘wild, not tame lion, both good and fearsome. ‘People who have not been in Narnia sometimes think a thing cannot be good and terrible at the same time.’That same basic false assumption was the starting point for the heresy of Open Theism. New-model theologians  (Pinnock, Boyd,et al) begin with the assumption that the God of the Bible could not be good and terrible at the same time, so they set out to divest Him of whatever attributes they didn’t like. Like Socinians and liberals (processists) who preceded them, they are on a misguided quest to make God ‘good’ according to humanistic, earthbound definition of ‘good’, devising a deity of their own making. In the final book of Narnia series, a wicked ape drapes a lion skin over a witless jackass and pretends it to be Aslan, a sinister and dangerous pretense leading countless Narnians astray. The deity of Open theism is like the jackass in an ill-fitting lion’s skin,l eading many sincere seekers away from the glorious Son of God of Scripture. God is both good and fearsome (’Consider the kindness and sternness/severity of God’-Ro.11:22).His wrath is just as real as His love, His fur as real as His fangs, His cuddliness as real as His claws.”

-John MacArthur

(From:  Bound Only Once  Canon Press ©2001))

“Maybe Jesus was just really fun to hang out with. Maybe the true mark of a christian is someone you would eat chicken wings with and shoot pool with or throw darts with or go to the game with. Not just if they could exegete the Greek text and beat you in Bible Jeopardy like some Sunday School Jerk…”

-Mark Driscoll

This quote was taken from the sermon ‘Humor’ which can be found at http://www.marshillchurch.org/media/religionsaves/humor

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I grew up being taught that hell was separation from God; a place of eternal torment for those apart from God.  But as I have begun to step out from those things that I simply assumed to be true because they have been taught to me from my youth and pursued biblical truth I have formed some different views of hell. Mainly that hell is not and cannot be separation from God. God is omnipresent.  There is NOWHERE where God is not. Heaven, hell, the wings of the morning or the depths of the sea, God is there.

Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.” Heb. 4:13

Where shall I go from your Spirit? Or where shall I flee from your presence? If I ascend to heaven, you are there! If I make my bed in Sheol, you are there!  If I take the wings of the morning and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea, even there your hand shall lead me, and your right hand shall hold me. Psalm 139:7-10

If this is true then how does one justify the “sheep and the goats” passage of Matthew 25? I have been pondering this and think that I have come up with something. One cannot deny that God says, “depart from me”. This much is, indeed, true. But how can one depart from God if He is with us, even in “sheol”? I think the answer for this lies in a common theme throughout scripture.

From the moment of the fall, God has offered a chance to gain back, in part, one of the things we lost in the garden: communion and fellowship. One of the important ways God did this was through the tabernacle. In the wilderness the Israelites had a way to fellowship God though only in part. As a consequence of the fall only a certain person could have this fellowship as a representative of the nation.  Another consequence was that this fellowship was tainted with fear. Through our head we had destroyed peaceful fellowship with God and now required atonement and right worship to come before YAWEH.  So each year the priest went before God within the tabernacle  to offer a sacrifice in order to keep God , whose very presence was represented by the tabernacle itself, appeased.

Enter Jesus. “But when Christ appeared as a high priest of the good things that have come, then through the greater and more perfect tent (not made with hands, that is, not of this creation) he entered once for all into the holy places, not by means of the blood of goats and calves but by means of his own blood, thus securing an eternal redemption. For if the blood of goats and bulls, and the sprinkling of defiled persons with the ashes of a heifer, sanctify for the purification of the flesh, how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without blemish to God, purify our conscience from dead works to serve the living God. Therefore he is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, since a death has occurred that redeems them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant.” (Hebrews 9:11-15) Christ a picture of God’s fellowship with his creation came as high priest, among that very creation in order to offer himself as the spotless lamb. As the veil in the temple was torn so was the need for the temple itself.  The tabernacle was and is now in our hearts as believers.

So, what does this all have to do with hell and the sheep and the goats? Well it is my belief that God’s command to “depart” as well as the final judgment in general is a removal of the gift of this tabernacle. As God had invited us in to fellowship with him he is now saying that the time   to return and abide will be over. God’s offer of fellowship will be complete. We were invited in and now  those who never repented will be cast out. “These are those who came out of the great tribulation. They washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore they are before the throne of God, they serve him day and night in his temple. He who sits on the throne will spread his tabernacle over them. They will never be hungry, neither thirsty any more; neither will the sun beat on them, nor any heat; for the Lamb who is in the midst of the throne shepherds them, and leads them to springs of waters of life. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.” Revelation 7:14-17 (emphasis mine).

God is the chief good. God is the fountain of all goodness, from which all goodness flows to the creatures and by which it is continued in them, and to them. Whatever goodness or perfection, natural as well as moral, is in any creature– it is from God, and depends upon Him, as the light is from, and depends on, the sun. For every created being, as such, is a dependent one. Through common grace he has extended many benefits to those who reject him. At this moment of departure, however, common grace will be erased. It is this common grace that I believe the goats are told to depart from.

To a man that rejects God, being separated from him is what he wants. Therefore, separation from God will not be a punishment for him. Rather than being fully separated from God the reprobate will be separated from God’s goodness; separated from all those benefits God so graciously offered. In return God will place on the sinner the entire weight of his wrath. God’s wrath is often described as a winepress. And so it shall be for the sinner that he will for all eternity be wrung through the winepress of God’s wrath with no hope for mercy.  Through it all God will remain just. And this is the final nail in the coffin. Each sinner will have no excuse, no word to utter that might cause this punishment to be seen as unjust.

In the end, God’s presence will be the worst punishment for those that rejected him. But for those to whom he gave the gift of life his presence will be the opposite…

And I saw no temple in the city, for its temple is the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb. And the city has no need of sun or moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and its lamp is the Lamb. By its light will the nations walk, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it, and its gates will never be shut by day—and there will be no night there. They will bring into it the glory and the honor of the nations. But nothing unclean will ever enter it, nor anyone who does what is detestable or false, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s book of life. Revelation 21:22-27

James Bond (007) is Britain’s top agent and is on an exciting mission, to solve the mysterious murder of a fellow agent. The task sends him to Jamacia, where he joins forces with Quarrel and a loyal CIA agent, Felix Leiter. While dodging tarantulas, “fire breathing dragons” and a trio of assassins, known as the three blind mice. Bond meets up with the beautiful Honey Ryder and goes face to face with the evil Dr. No.

While it contains all the classic elements of Bond films ( A beautiful woman, egomaniacle baddy …etc),  this movie is very anti-climactic. This can be attributed to several things. First, the soundtrack is incredibly sparse. It does have the classic Bond theme which is very important but apart from several variations on that theme the soundtrack is very forgetable. This sparsness also bleeds over into the foly and sound design. Outside of a few basic special effects like explosions and gun fire, when a character isn’rt speaking, all you hear is silence. Second there is no real tension built up and when what little tension there is comes to a head it gets resolved quicky and without any real problem.

All in all it was a good intro to the Bond series. My wife attributed the sparseness and the anti-climacticity to the era. I told her that Hitchcock was doing incredible suspense and climaxes as many as 5-6 years before Dr. No, so era is no excuse.

Side note: I’ve noticed a plot divice in Bond movies that I will keep track of through the retrospective. I’ve noticed that Bond is usually knocked over the head and unconscious in order, plot-wise, to get him to the enemy’s secret base.

America, in the assembly of nations, since her admission among them, has invariably, though often fruitlessly, held forth to them the hand of honest friendship, of equal freedom, of generous reciprocity. She has uniformly spoken among them, though often to heedless and often to disdainful ears, the language of equal liberty, of equal justice, and of equal rights. She has, in the lapse of nearly half a century, without a single exception, respected the independence of other nations while asserting and maintaining her own. She has abstained from interference in the concerns of others, even when conflict has been for principles to which she clings, as to the last vital drop that visits the heart. She has seen that probably for centuries to come, all the contests of that Aceldama the European world, will be contests of inveterate power, and emerging right. Wherever the standard of freedom and Independence has been or shall be unfurled, there will her heart, her benedictions and her prayers be. But she goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example. She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force. The frontlet on her brows would no longer beam with the ineffable splendor of freedom and independence; but in its stead would soon be substituted an imperial diadem, flashing in false and tarnished lustre the murky radiance of dominion and power. She might become the dictatress of the world; she would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit. . . . Her glory is not dominion, but liberty. Her march is the march of the mind. She has a spear and a shield: but the motto upon her shield is, Freedom, Independence, Peace. This has been her Declaration: this has been, as far as her necessary intercourse with the rest of mankind would permit, her practice.

- John Quincy Adams’ address as Secretary of State to the U.S. House of Representatives.,Independence Day 1821.

- Einstein Bros. six cheese bagel with onion and chive cream cheese.

- Rogue Brewing Co.’s Dead Guy Ale

- Macs

- P.F. Chang’s

- my iPhone

- A good French Press pot of coffee

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